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Ira, first… I really enjoyed reading your web site and all the straight, sensible advice and experience you share. It is a fantastic resource! I also went to Penn/Wharton and of course have a soft spot for fellow graduates, esp. OPIM guys (they called it DSCI in my days… I did DSCI/FNCE).
Anyways, I think I’m ready to pull the trigger on a diamond and went about it looking for the ”best” diamond, according to your recommended search parameters, given a $20K budget. I came up with the following, sorted by price. The most important thing is that it looks great to the naked eye, without any obvious flaws:
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1376930.asp $19,620
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1370637.asp $19,780
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1371624.asp $19,790
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1307892.asp $20,650
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-VVS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1381249.asp $20,730
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1351749.asp $21,050
So:
(1) would you mind taking a look and telling me what you think? Also, if you happen to see another stone I might have missed, I will definitely take a look?
(2) I was thinking about the simple 6-prong setting, but they said ”stones above 1.5 carat can be set for an additional price.” Is there any disadvantage to this setting? I don’t mind paying more to accommodate the diamond, but if I wanted the most simple, classic, solitaire diamond look, is there a particular setting you would recommend?
(3) When I’m finally ready to pull the trigger, are there any other special instructions I need to follow to ensure the web site knows I used your recommendation? Of course I would be happy to – and would insist on – the recommendation credit for your excellent web site and help.
OPIM guys gotta stick together! There aren’t many of us 🙂 I don’t know if we’ll let you in the club, though, with that split concentration with Finance! Yuck! 🙂
Before I get into your other questions, I need to know one thing – are you planning on using white gold / plat or yellow gold?
Platinum/white. Thanks v much!
Have you ever seen a K color stone up close? I think you would probably find it too warm of a shade of yellowish white.
A J will be fine, I believe, but it’s close.
Of the ones you linked to, the choice to me is obvious. THis one:
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1370637.asp
Is a much smarter buy than the rest. When given the choice between color and clarity, you should always choose color. The reason is simple. You need to think of clarity in binary terms – is the stone eye clean or is it not eye clean. That’s really all that matters. The SI1 in the I color stone is just as eye clean as the VVS1 in the K color stone. But color is a true sliding scale. The differences between adjacent grades might be very slight, but they are different and perceptible.
Let me know what you end up getting!
Great… I’m going to get this one. Out of all the stones you’ve seen over the years, and given the price range, do you think it’s a good, average, or below average purchase? I’ve fully accepted this is purely an emotional purchase and not an investment… so please be as brutally honest as possible. I’m just curious, that’s all, since I have zero operational experience in this area.
A couple of quick questions:
1. So I was thinking about just a solitaire, platinum 6-prong setting (looking for the simple, clean, classic look.) Do you have any thoughts or recommendations there? Is there any technical or functional advantage of using a 4-prong vs. a 6-prong, or some other setting?
2. Do you have any recommendations or thoughts on insurance? Both in terms of what/when/how to do it for the ring, and/or any particular vendors you trust or deal with that specialize in engagement rings and such?
3. Finally, is there anything special I need to do to ensure your web site gets referral credit for this purchase? I’ll probably make the purchase online at home, so I’m not sure if certain cookies or referral links will work properly since I’ve done much of the searching at work? Let me know if there’s anything I can or should do to make sure this happens.
Thanks again for all the help. I think your web site and advice are superb.
That stone is a great buy. It’s got a spread that’s larger than what a typical 2.00ct stone has. It looks more like a 2.25ct stone and it accomplishes this without sacrificing brilliance. So it’s really a great find.
answers:
1) Totally a matter of taste and style. I dont believe there’s any objective difference.
2) No clue re: insurance!
3) If you purchase on a different computer, then please click on some links from my site to JA before you buy. Maybe wait 10 minutes also between clicking on my links and making the purchase. Also, any links I’ve sent you via email will have the same effect. Thanks so much for your concern! If you could send me your order number when you’re finished so I can confirm that it went through, I would really appreciate that as well.
Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
Ugh, absolute tragedy… I got home this evening and went to make the purchase, and the diamond is no longer available.
Damn, I guess these things happen.
I will keep searching and will keep you in the loop… thanks again for your help so far.
Hey fellow Quaker. Lets keep some perspective here! Here’s another great option:
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1362065.asp
It’s also noticeably bigger than your typical 2.00ct stone.
Don’t know if you remember, but I’m your fellow Quaker classmate that tried to buy your recommended diamond from James Allen but it was snapped up right before I wanted to buy.
So I took a bit of a “breather” and let everything settle down and the web site refill and change around. I’m pretty sure I’m ready to pull the trigger again, and this time I will execute the transaction as soon as I hear back from you re: a recommended stone.
Would you mind taking a look at what I think were the best selections, given your recommendations on your web site? I am looking for a solitaire diamond, single classic setting, platinum. Overall I’m just looking for the best “value” and suspect all observations will be done with a naked eye for example. Thank you in advance… and of course if you have any other recommended stones from whatever vendor, I will definitely take a look.
Here were the best ones I could find (untrained) in the $25-$28K territory in the “comparison” format.
Please let me know what you think and I’ll get this done! I’ll also send you the order number as requested so you get well-deserved referral credits!
It’s a close call, but I really think you should just go with the cheapest of the bunch. This one:
https://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1379696.asp
The cut grade is VG, but it looks like a really top VG, so I don’t think you’d be able to see a difference in brilliance. Also, the size difference between this one and the most expensive one (the only one that’s a full 2.50cts) is only JUST BARELY noticeable. The difference in size between it and all the others is not noticeable at all. The color should be fine for a solitaire as well.
So all in all, I think it’s definitely the best value.
thanks again for your help.
I had to place this over the phone in the end due to shipping, payment, and delivery issues… couldn’t seem to get it done exactly the way I wanted online. I did of course state you were the referral.
Will this be sufficient for you to receive your referral? Please let me know if it is not, and/or if there’s anything I can do on my side to help.
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Ira… I got the finished product yesterday and it looks great.
Thanks again for all of your help. Did everything go okay with the referral?
It tracked perfectly. Thanks so much! Congratulations!!
Quick question… I was a half or full size too big on the ring. Is James Allen in New York, or is there a place you could recommend to do a resizing? I’d hate to ship it back that’s all… or is this something that can’t be done “while you wait” at a jewelry store?
Thanks again for everything.
Sorry for the delay! JA has their diamond office in NY. So you should definitely contact them.
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